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Post by darthdodo on Mar 23, 2008 16:21:21 GMT -8
I really don't understand you and Justin. The both of you, for some reason, get me on a topic, defend the topic and then after all banishments, hard feelings and arguments both ya'll finally say "well I believe like you do... I just wanted to make you mad"... I don't believe like you do. I believe in Creation, yes. But then immediately after that, you start saying all sorts of crazy stuff which I don't believe with. Yes, I like to make you mad. Heck, I like to make anybody mad if it'll make me laugh. This is against Bible laws, human nature, SWC laws and is wrong and makes no sense to begin with... Since Bible laws seem to be "outdated" on a Christian site, then I will go to SWC laws. 4. Be nice to your fellow posters. If you have a problem with another member take it here to Forum Feedback and the mods or one of the admins will deal with it. How can you take it up with the admins if the admins themselves are the ones not being nice!? 6. Just use common sense in your posting and abide by the overall rules of proboards. If you think something you are doing may be wrong stop doing it until you know for sure. If you are not clear on whether or not something you want to do is against the rules ask about it here in this thread. Angering people on purpouse is against common sense. 7. Note that, if an admin or mod feels that any of your posts are inappropriate, indecent, or offensive, they may delete them without warning, and if we feel like it- ban you! Muahahaha! I consider this offensive, can an admin be banned? If this was meant as some sort of joke, then fine I will shut up (even though this isn't a real good "joke"), and if not, then I express my deep sympathy on this forum. As far as I'm concerned this forum is dying and it is because of this forum's lack of maintaining principles! This forum was begun on Christian principles and the rules were enforced. If a member acted against them they'd be warned, if they didn't abide still they were banned. The rules were moderately strict and for that reason many people came here. This site attracted many good people due to the fact that these rules were enforced. But now that the admins are breaking them, laughing about it and making a mockery of themselves, the site has died. Many may be wondering why this site gets hardly no people coming, I can tell you. Simply this... liberalism. The site has let down on it's rules, the admins are breaking them. And as far as I'm concerned (and I'm going to be a bit plain here, but) I could stand here right now and say "GD", post porn and then molest and rape members through words and nobody would be able to say anything about it! I'm not gonna do these horrible actions, but if you let down a few rules you mays well let them all down! So admins, at this point I encourage you to delete the board rules and go on as your doing. Watch this site die, and be happy.
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Post by Laryn En'faal on Mar 23, 2008 17:06:45 GMT -8
Never thought I'd side with Mel, but that was a little harsh, Jango. Sure, it's easy to make Mel mad, but if anything that makes it boring >.> <.< Okay, that didn't come out quite as supportive as I'd hoped. Anyway... Er, no you wouldn't. I'd ban you so thoroughly your computer might explode. Not all of us are slacking Speaking of which... Mel, you're sending the thread off topic again. Take it to PMs or make a new thread to fight Jango in. BACK ON TOPIC!!!!
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Post by darthdodo on Mar 23, 2008 17:45:15 GMT -8
Man, I'm bad for getting off topic!
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Post by Nathan Jey'Daan on Mar 23, 2008 19:24:18 GMT -8
When did I say that, exactly? Well if you must be reminded, it was when we were talking about "Once Saved, Always Saved". You egged me on for weeks and weeks and kept on refuting what I was saying about it, then suddenly out of the blue you said you actually didn't beleive we were once saved, always saved. That about blew me out of the water. And, if I remember correctly, it was my bad behavior during those discussions that got me banned. I don't remember that instance. I've never believed in once-saved, always-saved regardless. So i'm not sure where you got that from. O_<
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Post by Nathan Jey'Daan on Mar 23, 2008 19:26:34 GMT -8
Er, no you wouldn't. I'd ban you so thoroughly your computer might explode. Not all of us are slacking [/size][/quote] Same here. Although i'm not entirely sure how one would rape members through words...
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Post by Jango Reiss on Mar 23, 2008 20:40:46 GMT -8
If this was meant as some sort of joke, then fine I will shut up (even though this isn't a real good "joke"), and if not, then I express my deep sympathy on this forum. As far as I'm concerned this forum is dying and it is because of this forum's lack of maintaining principles! This forum was begun on Christian principles and the rules were enforced. If a member acted against them they'd be warned, if they didn't abide still they were banned. The rules were moderately strict and for that reason many people came here. This site attracted many good people due to the fact that these rules were enforced. But now that the admins are breaking them, laughing about it and making a mockery of themselves, the site has died. Many may be wondering why this site gets hardly no people coming, I can tell you. Simply this... liberalism. The site has let down on it's rules, the admins are breaking them. And as far as I'm concerned (and I'm going to be a bit plain here, but) I could stand here right now and say "GD", post porn and then molest and rape members through words and nobody would be able to say anything about it! I'm not gonna do these horrible actions, but if you let down a few rules you mays well let them all down! So admins, at this point I encourage you to delete the board rules and go on as your doing. Watch this site die, and be happy. Ok, I'll admit that I laughed out loud at this. Apparently you haven't taken the time to examine why the site is dying. Have you stopped and taken a look at the members who have left? The main reason that everyone is leaving/has left is because they're growing up and becoming more mature and don't want to spend all their time role-playing as some made-up character. Sure, it was fun when we were young, but now we're getting older and it's not that fun anymore. That's why the site is almost used exclusively for just talking now. Nobody RPs because we have all outgrown it. As far as breaking the rules goes, I probably have broken some, mainly because I've never actually went through and read the rules. You are right, this site is dying, but it's not dying because us liberals are messing everything up, it's because like I said earlier, everyone is maturing and are busy with their lives now and don't have time to post here anymore. I'm busy with college and work now and don't have time to come here except for a few minutes at night. Also, I would perma-ban the crap out of you if you posted all that stuff. I'd probably laugh a whole bunch first and find a way to tell your parents, but then I'd ban you.
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Post by TFE on Mar 23, 2008 21:07:12 GMT -8
Amen to that. Are you also telling me (evolutionists) that the level of oxygen on the earth just HAPPENS to be at JUST the right level. And if it were just a tad bit more or less humanity would surely die?! If too less than we'd die from lack of air. If too much then our bodies, due to internal combustion, would wreck all sorts of havoc. There would be way more forest fires and many lives would be lost! Too little, or too much oxygen would surely kill us! Also the carbon dioxide levels are JUST right for survival! Same is true with the ozone levels! Life not only depends on it, it also depends on it being far away from the lives it's protecting! Earth just happens to have all the gases necessary for life; it just happens to have all the right quantities of those gases; and they just happen to be in the right place. Beyond all this, the gases in the air are all replenished when they are used, keeping their concentrations constant over time! People talk about Creation a faith, when I look at just this one aspect (air) of the big picture I see that a beleive that things just happen to be thrown out there perfectly takes an even GREATER faith! First is putting faith in an almighty God! Second is the faith in microscopic germs as well as the human mind! I'll put my faith in God thank you very much. The argument here is that given an infinite universe, there would be an infinite number of planets. When the number of planets approaches infinity, the likelyhood that one will work for us increases to the point where one is guaranteed to be the one we need, and the one that evolution needs. This is a good example of this. Now, I can't for certain say that this is true (well, in theory it's true), because with the Big Bang Theory, it seems like no matter at what speed the universe was expanding since it's explosion, the universe can't actually be infinite. If you add anything besides infinity to a measurable number, it's still measurable, so it seems as though the universe shouldn't be infinite. I think I rambled out my point: i.e.: your point isn't valid as the argument that you're "defeating" is defeated, but my argument "defeats" that argument, so we're back to something of a square one, per se.
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Post by darthdodo on Mar 25, 2008 16:52:39 GMT -8
Ok, you've made it clear that you believe it's possible for one perfect world out of almost a dozen very imperfect ones can just happen to be JUST right for human life and just happen to have ALL the right things for survival out of chance. I cannot argue with you anymore. This logic fails because it says that an explosion can create a perfect world. Every explosion I've ever seen has created destruction. Not once in recorded history has an explosion created anything good.
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Post by Jango Reiss on Mar 25, 2008 20:29:23 GMT -8
Ok, you've made it clear that you believe it's possible for one perfect world out of almost a dozen very imperfect ones can just happen to be JUST right for human life and just happen to have ALL the right things for survival out of chance. I cannot argue with you anymore. This logic fails because it says that an explosion can create a perfect world. Every explosion I've ever seen has created destruction. Not once in recorded history has an explosion created anything good. The heck? I never saw him say that he was supporting the Big Bang Theory. He was just explaining why people try to rationalize that it happened. Also, thank you for pointing out that explosions cause destruction. I never knew that.
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Post by TFE on Mar 25, 2008 20:49:23 GMT -8
Ok, you've made it clear that you believe it's possible for one perfect world out of almost a dozen very imperfect ones can just happen to be JUST right for human life and just happen to have ALL the right things for survival out of chance. I cannot argue with you anymore. This logic fails because it says that an explosion can create a perfect world. Every explosion I've ever seen has created destruction. Not once in recorded history has an explosion created anything good. I made it clear? Pardon me for playing devil's advocate for a second to explain away your argument. Know why that's a good thing? So if you ever actually get into a real debate like this, every point you make won't be an embarrassment to everything you believe when your opponent thrashes it into oblivion, that's why. I actually said the opposite. I technically did say this, but you missed my qualifiers. I said it's theoretically plausible for a planet to end up that way given an INFINITE number of planets. And it is theoretically plausible (i.e. IT DOESN'T GUARANTEE IT HAPPENS, THOUGH <- UNDERSTAND THAT). But, the thing I did say, is that I'm not sure there is an infinite number of planets (i.e. working from a fixed length of time, the universe would only expand a certain amount a second/year/day/whatever, and would [at least as far as I can imagine] technically never approach an infinite size, no matter how long the universe had been around), thereby making it seem a whole lot likely that such conditions *** ***WOULDN'T****** occur. ---------------------------------^ SEE THAT?The Big Bang in my mind does have several catches, namely, where the heck did anything come from? As the saying goes: "Nothing exploded and created everything." I suppose I'd need a Ph.D. in Astrophysics before I even hoped to understand the Math involved with what they say went on with it, though, as most (pretty much all) of it is beyond me.
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Post by darthdodo on Mar 26, 2008 8:46:05 GMT -8
Sorry. I thought you were agreeing with the Big Bang. I'm so sorry, right now I have too much to deal with and I'm not even capable of thinking straight, I guess.
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Post by Nathan Jey'Daan on Mar 26, 2008 18:07:38 GMT -8
Why, pray tell, are you inciting debates while you're in such a state?
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Post by darthdodo on Mar 26, 2008 18:19:45 GMT -8
Because I like discussing topics and getting to the heart of the matter. I realize I am a stubborn boy, and I guess I get that from my father. But no matter what "state" I'm in, I understand what I believe. It's just the too scientific wording of TFE's paragraph got me dumb-founded. You have to realize you're speaking to a hick! I may know politics and religion, but English is a no for me.
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Post by Jedi Knight Taeris on Mar 30, 2008 14:17:15 GMT -8
Creation and Evolution (in astronomical terms) Can be considered the same. The discription between the Big Bang theory and God's 6 days trick are very similar. lol I had an Astronomy teacher that Majored in Christian Theology and minored in Astronomy (he has a masters in Astronomy tho O.o) and he is also a Star Wars nerd ^.^
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Post by darthdodo on Mar 30, 2008 17:08:08 GMT -8
Define "similar"? Big Bang says an explosion created little molecules which turns into me. The 6 day "trick" states that an intelligent being created us in His own image, giving us a conscience, spirit and mind.
Explain where the conscience came from in terms of the Big Bang theory...
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