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Post by darthdodo on Jul 18, 2007 17:52:03 GMT -8
What is your opinion on this? Personally I think us Christians should be producing multiple babies. As many as possible! This argument of over-population is just completely nonsense IMO. There are scientific facts that if you took the population of China and India together and placed it in the US (excluding Alaska), this country would still have a smaller population density than England, Holland or Belguim. Also it's another fact that with birth control going on, we're practically killing off our country. That, abortion and all the sicknesses and diseased caused by sodomy and other sins that by 2070 or even 2050 the birth rates may end. Also the population in the world will suddenly begin to decrease. We're basically killing our population! If our population was too high I'm sure it would be taken care of... God has a way of taking care of the population (while debunking sin in some places)... or in the case of the Flood... everywhere...  and besides God made this world for us to live in, if he knew it would get overpopulated, why didn't he make it bigger? We don't have anything to worry about... |
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Post by jmcmatt on Jul 18, 2007 18:45:20 GMT -8
USA: 3,718,695 Square miles, 302,086,000 people. About 81 people per mile. England: 50,346 Square miles, 50,710,000 people. About 1007 people per mile. Belgium: 11,787 Square miles, 10,511,382 people. About 892 people per mile. The point is: We have a lot more mileage to work with, so obviously we're going to be able to fit more people without passing the population density of countries smaller than some of our states. Also, I believe you ment statistical fact, not scientific. In the past 7 years, the United States has had a population increase of over 20 million.  According to that graph, you're wrong about the population increase ending. At least, any time soon. |
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Post by darthdodo on Jul 18, 2007 19:04:09 GMT -8
I just put down what I read... |
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Post by TFE on Jul 18, 2007 19:19:23 GMT -8
Why's that? Ulan took care of most everything else. |
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Post by Nathan Jey'Daan on Jul 18, 2007 20:19:19 GMT -8
I just put down what I read... And that....Is why you fail. Try research, and having an informed opinion. |
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Post by darthdodo on Jul 19, 2007 8:32:11 GMT -8
Why's that? Ulan took care of most everything else. the Bible says be fruitful and multiply. Also did you know that birth pills is a lot like abortion. Just an earlier stage. I've heard my mother talk about how what she took before she was a Christian just killed the eggs in her and basically caused her to not be able to have a lot of children later on. Abortion, clearly is murder and is wrong. But otherwise, the Bible tells us to be fruitful and multiply. Also the muslims are having babies by the dozens! I've heard (from my dad, who does research in this area) that by 2020 the population in France will be mostly muslim because basically muslims are having dozens of children and the french (who are big on birth control) literally have maybe 1 or less per family! Muslims are taking us over, and they have dozens, while American's have an unwritten rule that you MUST have 2 children and if both were the same gender then your allowed to have a 3rd... It's fact that most Americans have 1, 2 or 3 kids per family! American's despise children, it seems and if we're not careful Muslims will become the dominant race in the world... which is quite grim any way you slice it. |
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Post by jmcmatt on Jul 19, 2007 9:17:51 GMT -8
Why's that? Ulan took care of most everything else. the Bible says be fruitful and multiply. Also did you know that birth pills is a lot like abortion. Just an earlier stage. I've heard my mother talk about how what she took before she was a Christian just killed the eggs in her and basically caused her to not be able to have a lot of children later on. Abortion, clearly is murder and is wrong. But otherwise, the Bible tells us to be fruitful and multiply. Also the muslims are having babies by the dozens! I've heard (from my dad, who does research in this area) that by 2020 the population in France will be mostly muslim because basically muslims are having dozens of children and the french (who are big on birth control) literally have maybe 1 or less per family! Muslims are taking us over, and they have dozens, while American's have an unwritten rule that you MUST have 2 children and if both were the same gender then your allowed to have a 3rd... It's fact that most Americans have 1, 2 or 3 kids per family! American's despise children, it seems and if we're not careful Muslims will become the dominant race in the world... which is quite grim any way you slice it. Abortion kills an unborn baby. Contraceptives prevent the baby from ever being concieved. If you're saying that contraceptives are abortion, then you're aborting babies by not having sex in the first place. Pretty effective contraceptive, that. Also, "muslim" is an adherant to Islam. It's not a race, so it can't be the dominant race. The reason that most third world countries are expanding so quickly is because statistically, poverty increases birth rate. The more people below a countries poverty line, the more the population expands. |
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Post by darthdodo on Jul 19, 2007 12:02:36 GMT -8
well that doesn't change the fact that muslims/islams are quickly becoming the dominant race in France and other places. and it doesn't change the fact that American's aren't having enough babies.
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Post by jmcmatt on Jul 19, 2007 13:27:28 GMT -8
For the second time, Islam is a religion, Muslims are followers of Islam. They are not a seperate race of people. And nothing is going to change the fact that Muslims are increasing in number. There's no fundemental part of their religion about childbirth, just as there isn't a fundemental part of Christianity about childbirth. Most Arabic families have multiple kids because that's how they prefer it. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you're looking at it through an Islamophobic standpoint. You dislike them, for whatever reason, so you're alarmed when you notice something that's been occuring since the begining of time: human expansion. Right now, Muslims are popping up everywhere. They haven't always been expanding as rapidly, and they won't always expand so rapidly. These things happen, you shouldn't be worried just because you read something you see as unpleasant, especially when whatver you read was probably pretty biased. |
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Post by darthdodo on Jul 19, 2007 17:08:28 GMT -8
well first of all... "dislike for whatever reason?" dude! I'm not being prejudice. But their completely against the Christians and want to kill us! I don't HATE them... I hate their religion! Now this isn't some random thing I've read. My dad has done research on this for months now and have found this evidence in several areas. I don't beleive it's just gonna stop (Muslim growth rate).
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Post by jmcmatt on Jul 19, 2007 17:23:46 GMT -8
You're being prejudice no matter how you try to gussy it up. Not all Muslims are in Al-Queda. Not every Muslim wants death to America. You're acting like every single Muslim wants to fly a plane into the side of a building, and hating someone because of an assumption is prejudice. And just because you don't believe something isn't going to affect the way the world works. I hate to break it to you. |
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Post by darthdodo on Jul 19, 2007 18:43:00 GMT -8
Do you think I argue about these matters just because I have nothing better to do? I've been in the areas I debate, before. And if I hadn't, I've done great research. I know a lot about the muslim beleivs and practices, I'm not just some dumby who walked in the forum and decides to be prejudice.
Muslims beleive in Allah to be the god and that the Prophet Muhammed is the last prophet. This is contridictory to the Bible which tells us to worship Jesus Christ and him alone. Allah is not Jesus. Sorry to break it to you. It's not prejudice against the race of Arabs and middle-easterns. It's their religion I hate because it is against the Bible. I'm not saying every muslim wants to fly a plane into a building. But I am saying that their beleifs are contridictory to the Bible.
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Post by jmcmatt on Jul 19, 2007 19:08:01 GMT -8
Do you think I argue about these matters just because I have nothing better to do? I've been in the areas I debate, before. And if I hadn't, I've done great research. I know a lot about the muslim beleivs and practices, I'm not just some dumby who walked in the forum and decides to be prejudice. I just put down what I read... 'Nuff said. Or not. I'm not saying that Muslims are Christian. I never said that Allah is Jesus, or that we share a religion. I'm saying that just because they have different ideas doesn't give you the right to hate them. Jesus didn't hate gentiles, even though they didn't believe the same as Jews. Maybe I'm wrong, but I was under the impression that the core of Christianity was love: loving God, and loving others. You say you don't hate them, you hate their religion. It sounds an awful lot to me like you hate them because of their religion. |
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Post by darthdodo on Jul 19, 2007 19:12:54 GMT -8
That "I put down what I read" was on the birth rate of London and America and whatever... not the Muslim issue
No. I do not hate them because of their religion. I do understand that we should love our enemies and try to win them over. But at the same time we don't have to love their religion. I hate their religion, though I'm not going to let that cloud my feelings for them, if I came across one...
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Post by darthdodo on Jul 19, 2007 19:15:11 GMT -8
by the way. Jesus does love us (sinners included). But do you think he doesn't hate sin?
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