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Post by jmcmatt on Oct 30, 2007 10:17:05 GMT -8
what's this whole debate about anyway? I'm not sure anyone really knows.
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Post by Jango Reiss on Oct 30, 2007 14:31:07 GMT -8
what's this whole debate about anyway? I'm not sure anyone really knows. Or cares.
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Post by jmcmatt on Oct 30, 2007 14:34:22 GMT -8
That too.
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Post by darthdodo on Oct 30, 2007 18:14:02 GMT -8
what's this whole debate about anyway? I was just pointing out a wording fact that nobody seems to realize due to this culture's constant misinterpretation. Bible says = Joseph, her husband (sorta, Jewish culturally) culture says = Joseph, her fionce. He was just engaged to her, but the Bible says that she was his wife and he was her husband. Now according to Jewish tradition, which I explained in the first post, you see why it was still not allowed for the two to come together sexually.
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Post by darthdodo on Oct 30, 2007 18:14:46 GMT -8
... so basically this "debate" (more like discussion) is not to change the story. It's just stating a word fact... it's kind of like a "did you know that..." thing... And I'm NOT trying to say that Mary wasn't a virgin or that they were allowed to have sex lawfully at that point.
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Post by jmcmatt on Oct 30, 2007 19:09:57 GMT -8
That's spectacular.
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Post by Jango Reiss on Oct 30, 2007 19:28:23 GMT -8
I think the only good part about this thread was the fighting and arguing.
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Post by TFE on Oct 30, 2007 20:00:57 GMT -8
what's this whole debate about anyway? I was just pointing out a wording fact that nobody seems to realize due to this culture's constant misinterpretation. Bible says = Joseph, her husband (sorta, Jewish culturally) culture says = Joseph, her fionce. He was just engaged to her, but the Bible says that she was his wife and he was her husband. Now according to Jewish tradition, which I explained in the first post, you see why it was still not allowed for the two to come together sexually. Would it kill you to admit that you were wrong about this from the beginning? Being "married" in old Jewish culture, by your definition is clearly the same as being one's fiance in Modern, Western culture (using the Bible as one's moral guide)! Just because your research says they were married in Jewish culture doesn't mean they are married in our culture. Come on, man! You're ragging on people that they shouldn't believe mistranslations then you wonder why people hate on YOUR mistranslations! Let me tell you something; it's not THEIR faults! It's you claiming to be the most reliable, bottomless source of Biblical truth, as opposed to people who have spent LIFETIMES RESEARCHING the Bible, as opposed to some kid spouting drivel and claiming to have God on his side! What you fail to agree with you adulterize to the point where it bows to YOUR idea of what it SHOULD be, as opposed to what it is! Why? Because you've been spoon-fed cultistesque propaganda from birth, no doubt! "LIBERALISM IS THE HARBINGER OF SIN! WE MUST RUN AWAY! AUGH!" And yes! I'll go ahead and answer my first question! YES!!! It WOULD kill you to admit you were wrong! You can't admit so without retconning you original argument! Why? Because that would be admitting that GOD was wrong, not some KID from North Carolina! Not some FALLIBLE kid from NORTH CAROLINA! You're a SINNER! I'M A SINNER. You're position does not always coincide with what God says! Being a human says that much!. You have SELFISH, SINFUL, HUMAN whims! You WILL obey them! YOU. ARE. HUMAN! YOU. ARE. NOT. GOD! YOU. ARE. NOT. GOD'S. SINLESS. MESSENGER! SINNER! YOU ARE A SINNER, AND YOU WILL DIE A SINNER. THANK GOD YOU CAN STILL GO TO HEAVEN! AUGH WHY IS THIS HAPPENING MY BRAIN IS AUGH AUGH AUGH AUGH!
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Post by Jango Reiss on Oct 30, 2007 20:02:36 GMT -8
I was just pointing out a wording fact that nobody seems to realize due to this culture's constant misinterpretation. Bible says = Joseph, her husband (sorta, Jewish culturally) culture says = Joseph, her fionce. He was just engaged to her, but the Bible says that she was his wife and he was her husband. Now according to Jewish tradition, which I explained in the first post, you see why it was still not allowed for the two to come together sexually. Would it kill you to admit that you were wrong about this from the beginning? Being married in old Jewish culture, by your definition is clearly the same as being one's fiance in Modern, Western culture (using the Bible as one's moral guide)! Just because your research says they were married in Jewish culture doesn't mean they are married in our culture. Come on, man! You're ragging on people that they shouldn't believe mistranslations then you wonder why people hate on YOUR mistranslations! AUGH WHY IS THIS HAPPENING MY BRAIN IS AUGH AUGH AUGH AUGH! This makes more sense than anything else in this thread.
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Post by jmcmatt on Oct 30, 2007 20:02:48 GMT -8
I was just pointing out a wording fact that nobody seems to realize due to this culture's constant misinterpretation. Bible says = Joseph, her husband (sorta, Jewish culturally) culture says = Joseph, her fionce. He was just engaged to her, but the Bible says that she was his wife and he was her husband. Now according to Jewish tradition, which I explained in the first post, you see why it was still not allowed for the two to come together sexually. Would it kill you to admit that you were wrong about this from the beginning? Being "married" in old Jewish culture, by your definition is clearly the same as being one's fiance in Modern, Western culture (using the Bible as one's moral guide)! Just because your research says they were married in Jewish culture doesn't mean they are married in our culture. Come on, man! You're ragging on people that they shouldn't believe mistranslations then you wonder why people hate on YOUR mistranslations! Let me tell you something; it's not THEIR faults! It's you claiming to be the most reliable, bottomless source of Biblical truth, as opposed to people who have spent LIFETIMES RESEARCHING the Bible, as opposed to some kid spouting drivel and claiming to have God on his side! What you fail to agree with you adulterize to the point where it bows to YOUR idea of what it SHOULD be, as opposed to what it is! Why? Because you've been spoon-fed cultistesque propaganda from birth, no doubt! "LIBERALISM IS THE HARBINGER OF SIN! WE MUST RUN AWAY! AUGH!" And yes! I'll go ahead and answer my first question! YES!!! It WOULD kill you to admit you were wrong! You can't admit so without retconning you original argument! Why? Because that would be admitting that GOD was wrong, not some KID from North Carolina! Not some FALLIBLE kid from NORTH CAROLINA! You're a SINNER! I'M A SINNER. You're position does not always coincide with what God says! Being a human says that much!. You have SELFISH, SINFUL, HUMAN whims! You WILL obey them! YOU. ARE. HUMAN! YOU. ARE. NOT. GOD! YOU. ARE. NOT. GOD'S. SINLESS. MESSENGER! SINNER! YOU ARE A SINNER, AND YOU WILL DIE A SINNER. THANK GOD YOU CAN STILL GO TO HEAVEN! AUGH WHY IS THIS HAPPENING MY BRAIN IS AUGH AUGH AUGH AUGH! 5 golden manbabies.
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Post by Nathan Jey'Daan on Oct 30, 2007 20:13:11 GMT -8
I was just pointing out a wording fact that nobody seems to realize due to this culture's constant misinterpretation. Bible says = Joseph, her husband (sorta, Jewish culturally) culture says = Joseph, her fionce. He was just engaged to her, but the Bible says that she was his wife and he was her husband. Now according to Jewish tradition, which I explained in the first post, you see why it was still not allowed for the two to come together sexually. Would it kill you to admit that you were wrong about this from the beginning? Being married in old Jewish culture, by your definition is clearly the same as being one's fiance in Modern, Western culture (using the Bible as one's moral guide)! Just because your research says they were married in Jewish culture doesn't mean they are married in our culture. Come on, man! You're ragging on people that they shouldn't believe mistranslations then you wonder why people hate on YOUR mistranslations! AUGH WHY IS THIS HAPPENING MY BRAIN IS AUGH AUGH AUGH AUGH! This post is made of epic win. The newly edited version is made of epic win 2.
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Post by Jango Reiss on Oct 31, 2007 19:57:45 GMT -8
I was just pointing out a wording fact that nobody seems to realize due to this culture's constant misinterpretation. Bible says = Joseph, her husband (sorta, Jewish culturally) culture says = Joseph, her fionce. He was just engaged to her, but the Bible says that she was his wife and he was her husband. Now according to Jewish tradition, which I explained in the first post, you see why it was still not allowed for the two to come together sexually. Would it kill you to admit that you were wrong about this from the beginning? Being "married" in old Jewish culture, by your definition is clearly the same as being one's fiance in Modern, Western culture (using the Bible as one's moral guide)! Just because your research says they were married in Jewish culture doesn't mean they are married in our culture. Come on, man! You're ragging on people that they shouldn't believe mistranslations then you wonder why people hate on YOUR mistranslations! Let me tell you something; it's not THEIR faults! It's you claiming to be the most reliable, bottomless source of Biblical truth, as opposed to people who have spent LIFETIMES RESEARCHING the Bible, as opposed to some kid spouting drivel and claiming to have God on his side! What you fail to agree with you adulterize to the point where it bows to YOUR idea of what it SHOULD be, as opposed to what it is! Why? Because you've been spoon-fed cultistesque propaganda from birth, no doubt! "LIBERALISM IS THE HARBINGER OF SIN! WE MUST RUN AWAY! AUGH!" And yes! I'll go ahead and answer my first question! YES!!! It WOULD kill you to admit you were wrong! You can't admit so without retconning you original argument! Why? Because that would be admitting that GOD was wrong, not some KID from North Carolina! Not some FALLIBLE kid from NORTH CAROLINA! You're a SINNER! I'M A SINNER. You're position does not always coincide with what God says! Being a human says that much!. You have SELFISH, SINFUL, HUMAN whims! You WILL obey them! YOU. ARE. HUMAN! YOU. ARE. NOT. GOD! YOU. ARE. NOT. GOD'S. SINLESS. MESSENGER! SINNER! YOU ARE A SINNER, AND YOU WILL DIE A SINNER. THANK GOD YOU CAN STILL GO TO HEAVEN! AUGH WHY IS THIS HAPPENING MY BRAIN IS AUGH AUGH AUGH AUGH! Infinite golden manbabies.
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Post by jmcmatt on Oct 31, 2007 20:25:17 GMT -8
Infinite golden manbabies. This.
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Post by Jacinth Visor on Nov 2, 2007 7:38:42 GMT -8
what's this whole debate about anyway? I was just pointing out a wording fact that nobody seems to realize due to this culture's constant misinterpretation. Bible says = Joseph, her husband (sorta, Jewish culturally) culture says = Joseph, her fionce. He was just engaged to her, but the Bible says that she was his wife and he was her husband. Now according to Jewish tradition, which I explained in the first post, you see why it was still not allowed for the two to come together sexually. Duh. Haven't you seen The Nativity?
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Post by Jacinth Visor on Nov 2, 2007 7:41:26 GMT -8
Duh again.
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