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Post by darthdodo on Nov 9, 2007 15:59:34 GMT -8
Real Mel's back... I was considering changing my IP address (on my bro's computer) and making another account and I even learned how to and did change the address, but I came back to my senses and decided to be myself. Who cares what you guys think of me. I'm me, and that may not be good enough for you almighty people. So if you guys don't like me, fine. I can deal with that. Just don't slap my beliefs in the face. Befriend the sodomite and slap the guy trying to please God, huh? Well that seems to be you. let me be me, ok? 2. Stop playing the victim, you're the one that decided to get high and mighty and decided that you're far superior to all sinners, and that no one but yourself was good enough for the glory of God. I'm not trying to be all high and mighty. I'm a mere human, so are you. And I will say this again too, never do I try and tell you what to beleive. I merely tell you what is truth in the Bible. And I know you will just say "no, your interpretation is flawed"... well you know what? the Jews thought they had it right too. And they killed Jesus for it! And Stephen, and countless others who believed the true way. Also I will not reject the fact that I feel I am superior to sinners (in some ways)... spiritually I am superior. While God loves them as well as me and would have everyone to be saved, he will judge the sinners. Us as humans let our compassion take over and refuse to judge the sinners. While we do not have the final judgment God has, we can call them sinners. Paul did. Many early Christians did. It's just our culture that says we can't hurt anyone else's feelings. The truth hurts, I can't help it. Truth is going to slap many in the face. I will not physically do so and I will not publicaly TRY hard to do so, but saying the truth itself will slap in the face and convict. I also here that you've recently abandoned your original belief and have gone to something else that is wrong. Don't talk to me about Christianity, please, until you return to it.
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Post by darthdodo on Nov 9, 2007 16:04:38 GMT -8
Also, while it may be true that it's AFTER I was called out that I "came back to my senses". But your not hearing the full story.
I learned how to change my IP address and did it to my brother's computer. I planned to do the new alias thing again but I decided not to and just be myself. That's what I meant by "I came to my senses".
Also I'd like to say sorry for the false alias. I will admit I'm not perfect. God's working on me and I'm trying to do better. I do just ask that you guys try and not throw my wrongs in my face like that.
And yes, I'll try to be nicer about the way I present some of these things. I do beleive their truths, so I don't recant on them and you can slap me in the face if you want, but it'll only show you what you really are.
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Post by jmcmatt on Nov 9, 2007 17:44:57 GMT -8
I don't slap you for your beliefs, I slap you for how you present them. If anything, I support you believing whatever you feel is true.
If I'm not allowed to talk about something because I don't agree with it, then you should practice what you preach and keep your views of homosexuality, and everything else, to yourself. It'll make life a lot more pleasant for everyone.
Under the same quote, if you want information, go to the source. Ask me any questions you have in a PM, and I'll answer. It seems to me that going straight to the source would save you some trouble here, just like going straight to the rules would have saved you some trouble over your sock account.
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Post by TFE on Nov 9, 2007 19:14:04 GMT -8
I'm not trying to be all high and mighty. I'm a mere human, so are you. And I will say this again too, never do I try and tell you what to beleive. I merely tell you what is truth in the Bible. Read: what you perceive as truth in the Bible. What do you think our arguments are? We don't just make them up on the spot. Ye olde double-edged sword.
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Post by Safiya on Nov 10, 2007 11:57:26 GMT -8
I don't slap you for your beliefs, I slap you for how you present them. If anything, I support you believing whatever you feel is true. If I'm not allowed to talk about something because I don't agree with it, then you should practice what you preach and keep your views of homosexuality, and everything else, to yourself. It'll make life a lot more pleasant for everyone. Under the same quote, if you want information, go to the source. Ask me any questions you have in a PM, and I'll answer. It seems to me that going straight to the source would save you some trouble here, just like going straight to the rules would have saved you some trouble over your sock account. This may belong somewhere else, but I don't know where else to post this. I personally think that whoever mentioned something about Ulan to Mel, should have kept their mouth shut. If there's one thing I've learned, it's that rumors are stupid, stupid things and shouldn't be spread. Some people need to learn not to talk about other's so much. Plus, if you hear a rumor... don't talk about it in any way to anyone until you've talked to the person who the rumor is about. And plus, everyone is entitled to their own beliefs, who are we to criticize every person who see who doesn't believe the same as ourselves? I understand stating your beliefs, the reasons for your beliefs, and the like. Otherwise, there's no need to try and force your opinions upon others or constantly tell someone they're going to hell for what they believe, that's absolutely a stupid thing to do. Having said this... I'm not calling anyone stupid, don't take it that way. I am saying I've sat back and watched all the arguments and such lately without saying anything, but I've noticed a few things that bother me. So I've stated what I think about that, take it or leave it. But don't come crying to me saying that I've said something wrong.
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Post by Jango Reiss on Nov 10, 2007 19:46:22 GMT -8
This all started when Ulan wanted me to check to see if Padawan might be another member's gimmick account. Of course, us being best friends, and me being an admin, he asked me. Upon my discovery that it was, in fact, Mel, I laughed out loud, and then shared the fact to him. He then told me that he was going to create a callout thread about it, to which I heartily agreed. So you can blame either one of us, but I'm pretty sure we won't care. There's one thing that you have to understand about me and Ulan...we've become completely cynical and sarcastic, and we quite enjoy these arguments. So you can pretty much count on the fact that we'll keep arguing. Also, I don't want to come across as being intolerant of anyone's beliefs...sure, I believe people such as Mel, Iggy, and Jace, have it wrong, and they believe the same about me, but I think that it's their choice, and they can believe it if they want to. I just like to argue with them cause I think it's absolutely hilarious and fun.
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Post by Safiya on Nov 11, 2007 7:24:03 GMT -8
This all started when Ulan wanted me to check to see if Padawan might be another member's gimmick account. Of course, us being best friends, and me being an admin, he asked me. Upon my discovery that it was, in fact, Mel, I laughed out loud, and then shared the fact to him. He then told me that he was going to create a callout thread about it, to which I heartily agreed. So you can blame either one of us, but I'm pretty sure we won't care. There's one thing that you have to understand about me and Ulan...we've become completely cynical and sarcastic, and we quite enjoy these arguments. So you can pretty much count on the fact that we'll keep arguing. Also, I don't want to come across as being intolerant of anyone's beliefs...sure, I believe people such as Mel, Iggy, and Jace, have it wrong, and they believe the same about me, but I think that it's their choice, and they can believe it if they want to. I just like to argue with them cause I think it's absolutely hilarious and fun. I really wasn't saying anything about the whole fact of arguing, actually. lol The subject of my post was the fact that someone needs to not spread rumors and the fact that trying to force your beliefs on someone is stupid. As far as the arguments go though, I don't really care if people argue, I just don't usually care to join the argument. lol And yeah, I have to agree with you Jango, the arguments can be funny at times.
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Post by Jango Reiss on Nov 11, 2007 15:39:19 GMT -8
This all started when Ulan wanted me to check to see if Padawan might be another member's gimmick account. Of course, us being best friends, and me being an admin, he asked me. Upon my discovery that it was, in fact, Mel, I laughed out loud, and then shared the fact to him. He then told me that he was going to create a callout thread about it, to which I heartily agreed. So you can blame either one of us, but I'm pretty sure we won't care. There's one thing that you have to understand about me and Ulan...we've become completely cynical and sarcastic, and we quite enjoy these arguments. So you can pretty much count on the fact that we'll keep arguing. Also, I don't want to come across as being intolerant of anyone's beliefs...sure, I believe people such as Mel, Iggy, and Jace, have it wrong, and they believe the same about me, but I think that it's their choice, and they can believe it if they want to. I just like to argue with them cause I think it's absolutely hilarious and fun. I really wasn't saying anything about the whole fact of arguing, actually. lol The subject of my post was the fact that someone needs to not spread rumors and the fact that trying to force your beliefs on someone is stupid. As far as the arguments go though, I don't really care if people argue, I just don't usually care to join the argument. lol And yeah, I have to agree with you Jango, the arguments can be funny at times. Well, me telling Ulan that Padawan was Mel wasn't really a rumor. According to dictionary.com, a rumor is: a story or statement in general circulation without confirmation or certainty as to facts. But I knew for a fact that it was him, so it wasn't a rumor.
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Post by Safiya on Nov 12, 2007 3:02:55 GMT -8
I really wasn't saying anything about the whole fact of arguing, actually. lol The subject of my post was the fact that someone needs to not spread rumors and the fact that trying to force your beliefs on someone is stupid. As far as the arguments go though, I don't really care if people argue, I just don't usually care to join the argument. lol And yeah, I have to agree with you Jango, the arguments can be funny at times. Well, me telling Ulan that Padawan was Mel wasn't really a rumor. According to dictionary.com, a rumor is: a story or statement in general circulation without confirmation or certainty as to facts. But I knew for a fact that it was him, so it wasn't a rumor. I figured as much... lol But the rumor thing was towards someone else anyways.
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Post by TFE on Nov 12, 2007 21:00:24 GMT -8
Originally, I had hoped that padawan was a new member. He was cool.
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